Fake Question Time III- the Photos

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To paraphrase an old joke about hockey, we went to a Town Hall meeting last night and a protest broke out. Case in point, the above photo of an attendee making a calm and rational point about the meeting by first shouting at Gavin and then approaching him while Gavin filibustered. We'll let SFist Elaine describe the scene. If you want more eyewitness accounts, Fog City has a recap as well as official Editor in Emeritus, Jackson West. ABC 7 has a video of the scene

Special thanks to Jerry Jarvis, Erika McDonald, and Eric Lawson for sending in these photos.

Coming up, more photos and another eyewitness account.

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And finally, here's one more eyewitness account, from Erika:

Third Fake Question Times, despite the lack of promotion, attracted more than 200 people. A scarcity of seats meant that dozens of people had to stand throughout the event's two-hour duration. Chairs were set up on both sides of the room, with the Mayor and health officials in the middle.

It was clear to me tonight, as I attended my first of these "Town Hall Meeting" with Mayor Gavin Newsom, that these are not town hall meetings at all. They should more accurately be called "Informational Meetings".

The event provided at least some details about the Health Access Plan (HAP), how it would work and what and whom it would cover.

But many in the crowd clearly wanted more than a lecture on the latest healthcare plan. There was plenty of drama, which began early and continued throughout. Not long after Mayor Newsom began speaking, activist Charles Kalish walked into the center of the room and began saying something about downtown businesses. Then, people in the crowd began chanting, many of them holding signs.

The crowd erupted with chants several times throughout the meeting. Many people also held up their hands for long periods of time, in hopes of being allowed to speak on microphone.

When chanting would begin, the mayor occasionally made remarks about how he would just wait until they were finished. Other times he would simply walk over to a table where notes were being taken on a projector and shuffle through question cards. Some folks would yell "shut up" in an attempt to shout down those erupting into chants. Others would approach them with question cards.

Both the disrupters and those trying to quiet them had valid points, in my opinion. Those who came to hear about the Health Access Plan (HAP) should have been able to do so and did. But those shouting and disrupting also had a point: that the event was more of a lecture than a dialog, and that a true town hall meeting involves attendees being offered a chance to speak to the Mayor and the crowd. These folks were not allowed to speak at any point during the meeting.

There is a big difference between a meeting and a lecture – meetings are interactive. This is true not just for meetings within political organizations, but for meetings within companies and other private institutions as well.

Certainly, if the Mayor fulfilled the intentions of Proposition I by engaging with the Board of Supervisors, it would truly be a discussion. No Supervisor would be relegated to writing down questions on index cards.

To the Mayor's credit, he did give Supervisor Tom Ammiano his props for spearheading the healthcare plan. Mayor Newsom also said in no uncertain terms that the Golden Gate Restaurant Association's lawsuit regarding the healthcare plan was "wrong".

But the Mayor adds insult to injury by billing these events as "Town Hall Meetings". He and his staff should not be referring to these events as "dialog" and "discussion" with the "community".

For many in the audience hoping to be heard on real issues of concern, the meeting was nothing but a dog and pony show providing information we could have gotten from a news story or government fact sheet.

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The meeting was packed wiyh city employees loyal to Newsom.Just look at the picture and I am sure you would recognize this fact.

Thanks for using some of my photos!

This meeting was way more than intense than I expected. I took pictures of it for an assignment in my photojournalism class.

You can see the rest of my photos here.

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This mayor is just used to always getting his way.
He won't answer any questions he does not like on city issues, his affair, hush money, etc. He even lets his stupid girlfriend insult people in the press and we are all supposed to just put up with it and let it blow over?? He just gets away with it all, hiding behind his slick speeches like a southern preacher. How is his approval rating 70 percent?

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Sadly there were reports of how ill kept and unsanitary conditions are at one of the few parks that offer comfort to the people who live in Chinatown. Lets ask Gavin how he can justify having departments hire their own press secretaries instead of having the Directors of those same departments handle media inquiries. These incredibly wasteful positions (all these individuals are civil servants and pull down close to 100k with benefits added in)should rightfully be eliminated and the savings spent on the taxpayers in upkeep, like at the parks. Why do the City Attorneys Office, Department of Public Works and now the Department of Building Inspection have these wasteful positions? Why do the heads of these Departments who each make close to 200k need this benefit, to hide from and shield themselves from the people they are hired to serve? Where's the best practices here?

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Sigh. none of this would be happening if it weren't coming up on election season.

Having a "town hall" meeting where no questions from the population are being taken and responded to is really duplicitous.

But then again, loudmouthed & obnoxious "progressives" shouldn't be shouting and yelling at elected leaders. Is that any way to get voters sympathetic to your cause?

I like the chicken suit approach better.

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Sure he should take questions, but these assholes dressing up as chickens and trying to shout him down just look stupid. What is it about being a "progressive activist" that means you have to be a jerk?

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Where has it been reported that the chickens yelled at or disrupted Mayor Newsom's lecture? My understanding is that the chickens pride themselves on being well behaved.

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What about bird flu?

Okay, so yes the supposed “townhall” was more like Gavin Newsom’s infomercial and his question time was a live version of a sort of a pathetic FAQ on who is eligible for this new HAP. And even more annoying was that they could not even answer questions that could not have been self-answered if you had paid attention to the presentation. I mean the fact that they seemed to have a limited amount of knowledge of the one thing they were prepared to talk about – logistics of HAP was also frustrating. I mean Gav has to get back to us on whether a Presidio resident is able to participate or not. The information I received from the mayor and company I could have better received in a brochure. But then I would have missed him getting to mention about one thousand times that we will be “the first city ever….”

However, much more informative in this meeting were the attendees. Somehow I unfortunately ended up in a clump of the loudest and most obnoxious ones. I was right next to the ones who kept interrupting and yelling about who knows what. They kept changing their issues. When the cameras got closer they got louder. Okay, I understand they did not want an infomercial, neither do I. Whoever said there is no such thing as a stupid question is wrong. Because when the guy next to me in his North Face jacket and brand name tennis shoes yelled out let’s talk about the unequal distribution of wealth, what are you going to do about that? I had to roll my eyes. I mean, sorry, who thinks that your elected governmental official is going to solve the nature of the beast? Get the fuck over it, buddy. So sorry to say this but enemy number one of townhall meetings: loud obnoxious “progressives” whatevers. I mean I can imagine if it had been opened up to the floor. It would not have become any sort of community dialogue by which I mean all sides having an equal chance to take the floor and have an uninterrupted chance to speak their mind but it would have been a parade of a small faction that spoke for a small minority.

My favorite dissenters: the chickens. I never heard them cluck. They drew quite a lot of attention to themselves but did it quietly and cleverly. And they held up well-printed signs with quite a few different options for Mr. Mayor to enter into a dialogue with the citizens of the city.

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